Reversing Rheumatoid Arthritis – Dina’s Story

We discuss how:
– After a year on the Paddison Program Dina is almost pain-free
– She was wearing ankle braces and couldn’t go up and down the stairs
– After day 6 of the Program she was able to use stairs
– After being diagnosed RA her rheumatologist prescribed methotrexate and Plaquenil
– She read the side effects and started searching for an alternative, and found Clint’s TEDx talk
– She’s even helping another patient from her rheumatologist, who wasn’t making any progress with Humira
– She has found help and support in the forum throughout her journey so far
– Also her family always gave its support and they’re now very proud
– After 9 months on the Program her blood tests show great overall improvement

Clint: Thanks again for tuning in to the Paddison podcast. We have Dina from Jordan today, and we’re going to hear about how well she’s done on the Paddison Program. And learn some tips from her about what she emphasized, and what she focused on to be able to get tremendous improvements with her rheumatoid arthritis. Good day Dina, how are you going?

Dina: Hi Clint, hello it’s good to be here. Nice to see you.

Clint: Yes, you too. And you’ve done so well you’ve been a big inspiration now for members of our Paddison Program Support, a lot of people you know regularly congratulating you and reading your journal history and so excited about how far you’ve come. So why don’t you give us a brief summary of how you feel now compared to before.

Dina: Well first of all I can’t believe I’ve reached here. It’s been a year now, a year and a month on PP, and well the feeling is great, the feeling is just overwhelming. Overwhelming in the sense that when I was first diagnosed it was complete shock and complete chaos. And I was thinking to myself gosh how am I going to make it? How am I gonna overcome this? How am I going to live with this disease? And I could barely walk, I could barely go up and down the stairs. I was wearing ankle braces, and now were looking at me, I in total control, I almost almost pain free. And feeling great with the diet, with the exercise, and yeah, it’s such a rewarding feeling to be here after one year and one month.

Clint: Well congratulations, because we know it’s not easy. This is the thing isn’t it? When we get this disease, it really is something so bad because, at first we don’t even know what we’re in for or we’ve heard terrible things about it so we know that the treatment forward going to be awful. And then you discover someone like myself and says all this is a solution, and you look at it like well that’s not easy either. And so you know, you’ve gonna like this.

Dina: I have a very funny story of how I found you.

Clint: Okay let’s let’s find out about that. Before we go any further there, how are the stairs now for you? How are you going up and down?

Dina: They’ve been a piece of cake since day six.

Clint: What? Since day six the stairs were a piece of cake.

Dina: After the two fasting days, and the fourth day. Yeah, so in total was day six.

Clint: Well that’s not bad, that’s not a bad result, awesome. All right. Well we’ll go into more detail about that. Tell us how did you find out about us, because he said it’s a funny story.

Dina: Yeah, Well OK so first of all just to tell you about the history I’ve had. I’ve been having this pain in my feet, and it’s been reoccurring every time I was I would strain myself I would stand too much, I would walk too much. Usually it happens when I travel, but I just you know I just thought I’m tired I overdid it today tomorrow I’m just going to lose my feet or to make them raise my feet and relax and I’m going to be fine. And then it started becoming like a cycle. It became the length of the period when I was in pain started to grow more and more, to be longer. And the last year it just continued again for four months, And I had no idea why I had this pain in my feet.

Dina: I remember two years ago going to the to the ER, and luckily there was a doctor, there an orthopedic doctor and I remember he just you know he just checked my feet and argued and he checked there was swelling. And he said well it’s just over use.

Clint: Wow.

Dina: Yeah.

Clint: God forbid you use your faith.

Dina: Just relax and you know he gave me Voltaren and just put them. And the thing is what they’re now sitting down or lying down I was not in pain It’s just when I started stepping on my feet that they got the pain. And I remember also that I started having pain in my wrists, and I noticed that when I was doing my Pilates classes when we were doing the pushups, and the planks which I absolutely love. And all of a sudden, I started noticing that I couldn’t do this two without having pain in my wrist. But still I had, Clint I was the last person who would know about the RA problem. But I think I’ve never heard of it before the doctor my rheumy mentioned you know. to make the long story short I finally went to a rheumatologist. And she started telling me that this could be RA, and we started doing a blood profile because none of the doctors I went to before did the blood profile. And then the diagnosis I mean, the test came out and my RF was 2200. My CRP has always been below 5, which was at that time it was 3.8 or something like that. And my ESR I was elevated, I can’t remember really I think it was in the 90’s. And she’s a very good doctor, she told me it’s rheumatoid arthritis. and I remember the shock you know that moment when you see everything stops in the area and you’re thinking what’s going on.

Dina: And of course, she gave me a cortisone shot because I was in pain. She said, can you please give you that cortisone. I said OK, yeah be my guest. You know I had no idea Clint. I know that cortisone shots used helped me before when I was younger. I used to get inflammation on the knuckles here, and I had 2 cortisone shots in here and I know I knew would helped. So I said well OK fine this is just, you know it’s tomorrow I’m gonna wake up I won’t have pain. And I woke up in the morning, and I still had pain on my feet. Then the doctor calls me says, Dina how is it? is the pain. And I said well no it’s not gone, And I’d say I have 0 percent improvement. And of course, she put me on. I mean she wrote down the methotrexate and the Plaquenil. And I went home of course, and I started researching. First, I wanted to understand what is this disease? what is rheumatoid arthritis? And I remembered while I was doing that research Clint, your videos, little clips use to pop up.

Clint: On YouTube?

Dina: Yeah, And I said yeah this is just somebody else who just wants to sell something you know. And this is you know, and he looks like a Hollywood star, and you know I laughed when I learned that you were in the entertainment business you know. I said, what does he know about rheumatoid arthritis? He looks too happy, you know this thoughts are coming up in my mind.

Dina: And then, when I realized it was serious and this medicine. I was like I am not going to be this on my life. I don’t want to take this drug. And then for a whole week I remembered, and then I mean I just gave in. I took my first pill of Plaquenil, then the second one. on that second one I remember taking it and you know I made supplication to God and I said, “please God if there is a way, if there is way, if there is hope out there. I’ve been searching for a week now, just please just show me the way that is a way for me not to live on these medications”. You know, and you know reading is really scary when you read about all the side effects of methotrexate. And I know I’m very vulnerable and I know that I get every side effect on the list. I get it.

Dina: So on that night, you popped up again you know. I think, why am I ignoring this, and I looked, and I said it was the clip about rheumatoid factor. I said well this is my problem let me just go and see what this man has to say you know.

Dina: And that was that, you know. I saw that one, and I immediately saw the TEDEX talk. And you know the TEDEX was over, I was sobbing, and crying, and I went to my husband. Look I found him, he’s for real, this is the man who’s gonna help me you know. It’s so true, it’s so real. And on that night, we got the book, I started reading and in the morning I remembered I woke up you know and I went to my iPad and started reading, and that was that. But the funny part about when I was reading the program you know, yeah okay no meat fine, no dairy fine okay. Although it was important back then, and then no oils, that’s gonna be a bit problematic. And then no coffee, I was like, no please don’t do this to me you know. And I remember a quote in your book saying, yes your saying to yourself this is like converting from Islam to Christianity I’m not going to do it. That was so funny you know it is really that feeling. What do you want me to eat? How do want me to live you know?

Dina: And they just said to myself This is it, I just have to start, and I started the next day it was the weekend. I just started, I had a juicer, so I just got everything, and I started it two days on the weekend and amazingly Clint. On the second day, you know I can’t really remember it. It written down in my journal in the forum, and I think I removed the braces on the second day because I didn’t have pain when I was you know putting pressure on feet and trying to walk. And by day 6 I remember I woke up, day 6 and I went up and down the stairs and I called my husband and I said look at me, look at me. I can go up and down the stairs, and you know, and it was, and I knew it and I knew since the moment I saw that small clip that I’d been I had been ignoring that this is for real, this is really working, this is going to work, and it’s working, and it has worked for you, it has worked for others who knew of course. And yeah, it’s a…

Clint: That’s a funny story. I love that, it’s a great story and a funny one and it’s so I really got a good laugh about how you said something about, you know don’t look like I should have rheumatoid arthritis it is funny you know and yeah sure I mean, does credibility take a hit when my background is standup comedy? Well maybe I mean.

Dina: I didn’t know it back then.

Clint: Right.

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Dina: I had no idea, it’s just you know it’s just I need the link you know. I thought he was a Hollywood person. I learned later when I read the book you know no of course it doesn’t.

Clint: Yeah, but you know we all come at these things from different walks of life, don’t we? I mean, who’s to say that you have to have a certain profession to have an ability to have a comprehension of something on a different topic?

Clint: It’s a funny way that we compartmentalize people, but you know it’s never been a problem for me other than just you know there are some free forums online that you can go on to and enter a world of misery where people just you know exist in a let’s see who’s got the worst problems today. And they like to criticize my background, and what I do and how could you believe someone who is an entertainer or whatever. But like other than that, it’s not really been a problem and I think it’s just I think it’s hilarious. I love having a diverse background, I’ve both you know I exceled at my university degree and beyond that in my start up business phase in high tech. And then I’ve done great in stand up, and then I think I’m doing alright at helping people with rheumatoid arthritis.

Dina: That’s the greatest part of your career actually. Yes, no if it wasn’t comedy in that book Clint, probably you know I would have said Oh I know this too hard I don’t want to do it. But the way you put things, you know and the way you were reading my thoughts when I was reading. oh my God, this is so hard, and the way you put it in a funny way, in a pleasant way. It was one of the things that made me feel from inside that this is it, I just had that feeling this is it. This what I should be doing.

Clint: Awesome. That’s good feedback yeah. This is interesting for me to get because I’m actually working on publishing the book now. And I’m going through the entire book, and on the challenge, I have is so much more content than when I first wrote it. At the same time when I first wrote the first edition, there was just so much passion and energy behind it because it was the. This is I need to tell you everything and this is why and so, I want to keep that authenticity without diluting it with all the additional content because I have such a pragmatic and sort of logical approach to how to get people well now that it’s so systematized and I just want to make sure that people can follow the system. But at the same time without losing the authenticity of the first take that I had at it. So, let’s talk about your results now. Your rheumatoid factors remained elevated but everything else has come right down, if we just talk about blood tests yeah.

Dina: Yes, and the pain definitely. Once I started, once I was progressing on PP. The pain of course started to move around which you to tell us about. And I started getting it in my fingers, more in my wrists, and my shoulder. And I knew that was part of you know the disease probably and my gut healing. And so I was experiencing new pain but it wasn’t intense pain, it wasn’t that you know that the pain that immobilizes you and you can’t do anything, it’s not it wasn’t impending. And so my results, I was actually I had an elevated ESR but when I would compare it to my pain levels at around let’ say 5 months through PP. It wasn’t you know remembered…

Clint: It didn’t seem to match.

Dina: And I was in the 40’s and you told me it’s still elevated Dina we need to get it down and the doctor was also. My rheumatologist wanted to get it down, and but in terms of pain Clint it’s been really really good. I mean when the pain in my feet went away in the ankles and I mean completely went away, that was a total miracle for me. And that was when I knew I was already on the way, in getting better and gaining more strength.

Clint: Yeah, awesome! So, tell me, what’s the availability of food like in Jordan?

Dina: Yeah… We have quite a wide variety, it wasn’t that difficult. I mean I could find the dulce also in the beginning, buckwheat. And now I’ve exchange it to the dulce.

Clint: Oh yeah, the nori sheets.

Dina: The nori sheets, Because it’s not available anymore. We have quite a variety of the stories that sell all these items. And I’ve been lucky even with organic food.

Clint: Fantastic.

Clint: Yeah organic cucumber, celery you know for my juices I try to get as much organic as I could. But the availability is that the only problem you find, if I may say it’s a problem because I’ve seen it and we talk about it. It’s that it’s the baseline let’s say, is not something that our region are used to.

Clint: Sure, it’s not something that is something that I invented. It’s not something that comes. With a little help from and inspiration and guidance from Dr. Hiromi Shinya who I who I need to reference as a as an inspiration and source of information. His book the enzyme factor, revealed to me that the buckwheat, quinoa, millet for him brown rice, he used to mix all these things together and eat it all the time. And I thought, goodness me he’s telling me well he’s writing in his book about what he eats, It’s the same thing all the time. But he describes about how that creates the most perfect possible Colon. And when his patients eat these simple foods on a regular basis, they have the most cleanest, perfect, colons. And we know that if you’ve got great digestive health, you have wonderful health throughout the rest of the body and I thought well alright. And that gave me the first inspiration to mix things together. That’s where I come up with the mix the buckwheat, the quinoa and I put that Amaranth in there and I tried millet. But eventually I had to narrow it down, because I thought some of these things feel superfluous because they sort of are the same nutrients. And some of them are a little bit cumbersome to prepare, and so that’s how we ended up coming up with the eventually come up with the baseline foods. But they’re not common really anywhere, the combinations like that. So that’s why I asked you know how hard is it to do this.

Dina: I’m telling you this because, you know there was this incident when one time my rheumatologist the first two months she was really insisting on. She was very supportive, actually if she didn’t give me my space Clint, maybe I wouldn’t have she would have pushed me you know into taking the (inaudible) drugs. I kept asking her please let me just give this program a try, and I promise you and send you the blood test. I send you my, the way I’m progressing. And I remembered 1 day she called me, and you know I was like, she’s calling again about the medicine again you know.

Dina: And it was a totally different matter, she was going to ask for help. Because she had a patient, young patient and she told Dina I’ve been trying to change she’s moved her from Embrel to Humira. You know she is changing every two three months, and the young lady wasn’t getting any better. Said Dina what are you doing? Would you help? You know, and I remember I sent you an email and I remember because she is you know it’s the local community. And so, when I started talking about quinoa and buckwheat, and sea weed it was a total in different language. Yes, and there was actually no way for her to even try it you know so we went into basmati right away. But she’ improving by the way, she’s improving.

Clint: Awesome. She’s young, I remember that she’s young. How old is she?

Dina: She’s 25.

Clint: Okay, was older than I thought. Great. Yes. Good. Well make sure she downloads our app to listen to these podcast on her phone.

Dina: But there’s the problem of language.

Clint: Ah right. Yeah. Yeah.

Dina: So she doesn’t really have access to the Internet she’s not, she’s not. So just follow up with her on the phone and just ask about her. she’s been doing really well.

Clint: That’s lovely of you. And you volunteered all of your own time to help this stranger who you met because your rheumatologist.

Dina: I felt one per cent to what you feel.

Clint: Yes.

Dina: When helping us you know so. And it’s it’s just it’s a it’s such a rewarding feeling. It’s such a wonderful thing to be able to see that you know you’ve impacted people’s lives, and they can carry on with their lives being healthy, being strong, and empowered.

Clint: It’s good isn’t it?

Clint: I think what’s the greatest part of it, is that you are tuned in to the truth. And when you tuned into the truth, you get this insane feeling of elation it’s, yeah it is just remarkable how good you feel when you’re sharing the truth with other people. Especially in a world where there isn’t much truth, particularly the Internet is just full of you know all of social media is just people’s basically five second show real of their day when the other you know entire part of their day that we don’t see is struggle, or misery, or just not so great. And then we see that, and we feel that that’s their reality it’s not. That’s just a snapshot in in their day that was happy. And then we go and look at arthritis Websites, and it’s all about there’s no cure, there’s no known cause, you must do this, you must do that. And so that’s all not the truth. And then you know everywhere we look there’s this false information or no truth. And when we cut through it all, and we will see the truth, and then we share the truth with someone else and they benefit from it. And the truth is just available through word of mouth. It’s amazing isn’t it?

Dina: Definitely.

Clint: Yeah.

Dina: So, remember also, I had I was sharing because Sue who’s on the forum, who’s one of your clients. We’ve been buddies me and her, my PP companion. I remember, I started the program although I knew what I was doing, and I know I knew it was going to work but I said, because she has so many other challenges I’m gonna try it on myself first and see if this works. And then you know, and I remember I called her up when I removed the ankle braces. And I told her about you, and she started to. I think she started, I think two weeks later because she had to call then you know It’s a different case it’s, she has much more challenges than mine. I still does at this point, but yes so and she could see, she could see, it she used to have attacks that wouldn’t let her sleep at night. And then just starting PP, it put that buffer between those attacks and you know now for her it’s something from the past completely.

Clint: Awesome, it’s awesome. So this is it, you’re really inspiring others and of course all the people who jump on your particular journal inside our support. And are able to follow it, it’s really great. So, tell us some, are there some take away tips that you’d like to share with people who are doing it? They could be strategies, or it could be discipline, or it could be practical things about how to prepare the food, or there’s something that you thought you know that’s a little bit of a Dina creation, or a Dina tweak that we could share.

Dina: Yeah. First of all I want to say it is difficult, I mean it’s not, it is difficult it’s not easy, and it was difficult the reintroduction was challenging for me because I used to love all those kinds of foods. I was asked not to go back to. And it’s funny how I feel about them now it’s totally different.

Dina: But I think having faith Clint, I think this is yeah, having faith in the program, and having faith that I mean if God put you through this. if we have asked for help he is going to help you and you’re on the right track. And having faith that, every information we get I mean from you as the forum, as the Paddison Program is really all that we need. Because you know once I went on to the forum Clint, I really didn’t want to go and fish for other information elsewhere. I knew that this was specifically designed for me as a rheumatoid arthritis patient, and I didn’t want to lose time. And if I would say, if I had to put this strategy just keep being informed. Listen to all the podcasts, you know because every podcast there is a new information, and there is that little you know tip that is that would help you like jump 100 steps ahead. You know it and it’s so simple but, you know with everything going on in life and how we’re busy and you just don’t think about it you know.

Clint: Yeah.

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Dina: And discipline, just tell yourself that I have to stick to this for my own sake at the end of the day. Because I remember Clint at the very beginning of the program, I was sitting looking through the kitchen window and having my buckwheat, quinoa and seaweed. And it just hit me that, my life had changed, that I can’t go out to restaurants you know, I can’t go out with my kids with the family, and you know I start feeling sorry for myself. And I remember tears coming down, and then I went up just like that. And I opened the forum, and I don’t know somehow, I found that video of yours that fighting a race, like climbing a mountain is it?

Clint: That’s it.

Dina: And I remembered, you know it was just telling you know it was an answer to how it just felt just a few minutes before not to feel sorry for yourself that you’re doing the right thing. That yes it’s hard but it’s, you’re going to get the reward at the end you know so just you know hold on to that you know, just remind yourself that this is going to be for your own sake. You’re going to be healthy at the end of the of the let’s say the difficult times, or the stressful times. When for example, you don’t know what to eat, or you haven’t prepared your food, and definitely try to prepare your food in advance. You know if you can do it weekly it’s perfect. I mean I have my quinoa and buckwheat all the time. So, if I don’t know what to eat I just make a quick soup you know and the blender, and I put my quinoa and buckwheat, and I’ll just eat that. So, I don’t stress, and I don’t wonder what to do.

Dina: And for me I think the juicing, and I told you this on the forum the other day, I haven’t stopped it since I started Clint. The juice I do it every day, and I’ve added after the third I think or fourth I started adding Kale, Spinach to the to the Celery and Cucumber. And now I had some green apples just to give it a bit of a twist.

Clint: Yeah that’s fantastic! That’s wonderful.

Clint: And just for, I mean the forum is very important. That sets, it’s a good support forum and it’s really gives you support. I mean without the forum Clint, I don’t think I would be here today. I don’t think I would have reach so easily you know and I would have hanged on to temptations. Let’s say, you know when sometimes your mind goes astray, and you just say maybe I missed this kind of food, or why am I doing this? And you know you lose track, so don’t lose track, keep informing yourself, keep informed. And if you can be on the forum then yes, just because you know it’s my safe haven, it’s always safe haven you know it’s where we go for comfort, for information, you know for just learning more.

Clint: Awesome, I’m so pleased to hear that particularly about you know the feedback about the support group because, you know that’s where I spend all my time and all of my priorities with people who are reaching out and wanting help. And those people who invest a small contribution to all of my time.

Dina: I think of it to what we get Clint in return. I mean it’s actually, it’s a mine of information and of help and guidance you know.

Clint: Yes, I’m very proud of it. And I’m proud of everyone who’s involved and you know itself perpetuates, because people like yourself and so many others all contribute such good information and we’re all learning from each other and sharing. Yes, so you know I’m still making discoveries as well, because sometimes someone will be on some kind of particular medication that’s not rheumatoid related and find out that that’s worsening their symptoms. And then we do the research, and this just happened a few days ago and found out this particular sleep assistance drug has counterproductive and inflammatory effects on rheumatoid. And so you know these things I learn to and now I know, it’s in my toolkit I add that I can share that to the wider public and we can focus on these things internally in our group and make sure that everyone get off those things because that’s another you know what I mean.

Dina: Definitely.

Clint: So, well what’s next for you? What have you got planned? Are you going to do something in the next 12 months are you going to do some exciting things?

Dina: Well, I want to try and reach out as much as I can. And it’s not easy Clint because I’m sure you know this. People are you know excited at the beginning oh yeah what have you done. And then when they know what it’s all about, you know they start being. discouragement comes in.

Clint: Yeah, the clouds come down.

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Dina: Yeah, and you know at the end you don’t want to push anybody into doing anything. I mean it has to come the will power has to come from inside. But yes I really would, I mean I have gone to my gynecologist and she saw the yeah one of them of course with the positives that they lost weight which was a much needed weight to loose and to get rid of. And my gynecologist, what have you done Dina? So that’s sad because I haven’t seen her before I was diagnosed. I told her I have RA and this is the times, every time and that’s how you know I really believe in this who is he? We have to invite him as a speaker. Let’s organize this. Yeah.

Dina: You know so and I told her the doctor if she know anyone just give them my number and if anyone wants to know about this and I’ll be happy to help. So yeah so hopefully, learning more through the forum, And this is a new phase by the way Clint. And I think I don’t know. You would tell me maybe we could. I know that every person is different, and every experience is different, and different and every reintroduction is different, and every reaction to food is different. But maybe we can have something more guidelines for this phase, because I still feel you know I still need guidance you know. What could I reintroduce? What should I stay away from? You know because I’m t and the other day I put chia seeds, I put you know and I read your conversations with other members and the forum and it’s very helpful. So yes although it’s less guidance, and with less intensity, because you’re more in control. You’re not you understand your body more now and, I mean even our taste buds have changed you know. You look at the recipe or you look at something and you know that you know you can’t have that, or you wouldn’t want to have that. (inaudible). But maybe if we had more with people who will have reached let’s say, the more in advance stage, to have more let’s say guidelines on what to do and what not to do.

Clint: Yeah I think that is due, and I am definitely going to create some conditional statements, some if, then, statements. So if you’re able to eat, this then it is likely that you can also eat this this and this and you should try and you might be able to introduce a cluster of foods over a short period of time which tremendously helps happiness and lifestyle without having to randomly choose your own adventure. And I’m especially going to be looking at doing that straight after theThe baseline phase. Because you know the gift of time is that we learn a lot from our clients, and from feedback, and so on. And although what works for one person doesn’t necessarily work for the next, there are definitely trends. There are definitely this works for the vast majority of people. And now that I have an enormous volume of feedback over the past four, five, even six years now are coming on to the sixth year of doing this next month. I now feel more qualified to be able to provide that guidance rather than just taking a stab in the dark or basing it on what I personally experienced.

Clint: So, it will come and we can definitely look at that. And yes I’ve got a lot of thoughts and things I want to say about that. But let’s save that for another time. Otherwise we distract from the focus of our call.

Dina: The idea is there.

Clint: Yeah. The idea is there and it’s a great one. So I think it’s a good place for us to wrap up and just to say thank you very much for sharing your story an entertaining one. One that’s full of inspiration. And how do your family feel about where you’re at now?

Dina: They’re very happy, they’re very proud, and they were very helpful, and my husband was very supportive. My younger one was supportive too. I’m trying to you know to introduce little by little, if it was just for my husband I think he’d eat like me with no problem. But I’m trying to educate them, and I mean they know you know one important thing Clint, is the sense of you know why do I say it’s a safe haven, is safe haven. You know when we’re bombarded with the social media, with we’re bombarded with so much information, and you know 90 % of it is just not true or not helpful or even worse it can be. And now you know the feeling when I am reading something and I’m like, do they know what they’re talking about? Take this or that or that food, or that food, or that seed. Please, stop just misleading people.

Clint: It’s tragic.

Dina: This (inaudible) you know for me as a mother, you know and you know I know I can feel now I feel I have the key to do my kids health to you know. To my kids well being, and people I love and everyone around us. So this is great. And I think they feel that to. So they feel that they can come back to me and ask me mama is this okay? and you know and because they know that the information I have is not something that works, it’s for real, it scientifically based and it is proven and people have tried it and have succeeded.

Clint: Yes that’s right. That’s right and that’s not something that’s about to change. Next week, the next fad, whether it’s an Atkins or a paleo or a ketogenic you call it what you want. It’s cancer directive. So you know let’s just stay away from these bad things and let’s stick with what the body likes to eat, which is plants. We can’t go wrong when we eat something from nature that’s harmless.

Dina: Yeah I forgot to tell you after nine months, I was nine months on PP I did my yearly tests Clint. And I had sugar levels was on the verge of the danger. y my cholesterol, prediabetic not diabetic. The cholesterol level, my zinc was always very low, my vitamin D was very low. And when I did that after nine months on PP, cholesterol dropped, the blood sugar level dropped, the zinc went up, vitamin D went up although Clint, I had finished my supplement while I was on PP and I didn’t buy another one. And I was like gosh I think I’m eating so healthy, that even that little bit of sun I’m getting. You know my vitamin D was 90, and usually had been in the 20’s, 19-23. So having such results you know being plant based food 9 months back then. We just have the proof you know, it’s not just pain free, it’s all so having You know you’ve gained your health it’s holistic. You’re getting better in every sense of the way and in every direction.

So yeah that’s what we want isn’t it? That’s when you know that you’re on to something. As when one part of the body gets like let’s say if we’re talking about you know one of these kind of fad things, which are targeting weight loss because it’s poor people’s number one problem they think is weight loss but weight loss is a symptom. So they’re trying to address a symptom, which they think is the problem. And but we know, that when you eat right, and you become healthier, health gets rid of excess fat. And so it did gets rid of it for free, You get slim, and trim, for free when you eat well and get rid of your rheumatoid, and you’re prediabetes, and your high blood pressure and so on.

Dina: It comes as a bonus.

Clint: That’s right. Well we definitely had a wonderful happy time, so I want to thank you once again and I look forward to seeing you online and continuing to enjoy working with you over the next.

Dina: Thanks Clint. Thanks for everything to us really, and thank you for getting me here and getting everybody else just feeling better and healthier.

Clint Paddison

Clint Paddison has recovered from crippling Rheumatoid Arthitis and now assists others with this disease via the Paddison Program for Rheumatoid Arthritis, the Paddison Podcast and the blogs on www.paddisonprogram.com